So you’re trying to choose between two best of the bike computers in the world – the Garmin Edge 1000 vs 810? Tough situation! This post has all the information you need to decide.
So How to Decide: Garmin Edge 810 vs 1000?
There is a very significant price difference between these two computers. This is partly because the Garmin Edge 810 has been replaced by the Garmin Edge 820 (reviewed here). This chart shows all the most important similarities and differences between the 810 and the 1000.
Chart Comparing Garmin Edge 1000 vs 810
Alert: Garmin Edge 1000 is on sale right now (7 April 2017), discounted by $100. This hardly ever happens, so if you want the 1000, grab it while it lasts!
|Lowest Price on Amazon for complete bundle:||$599.95||$499.00|
|Unit Size||2.3 x 4.4 x 0.8"|
(5.8 x 11.2 x 2.0 cm)
|2 x 3.7 x 1"|
(5.1 x 9.3 x 2.5 cm)
|Display resolution, W x H||240 x 400 pixels||160 x 240 pixels|
|Screen size, W x H||3" diagonal||2.6" diagonal|
|Weight||4.0 oz (114.5g)||3.5 oz (98 g)|
|Battery life||Up to 15 hours||Up to 17 hours|
|Garmin Edge Remote Control support||Yes||Yes|
|Round-trip routing (input a starting point and distance, and the Edge will suggest up to 3 bike ride options)||Yes||No|
|Out front mount (as well as original quarter turn)?||Yes||Yes|
|Unit-to-unit transfer (shares data wirelessly with similar units)||Yes||No|
|Automatic sync (automatically transfers data to your computer)||Yes||No|
|Relive and share your rides with Garmin Connect™ (online community where you can analyze, categorize and share data)||Yes||Yes|
|Compatible with Strava?||Yes, you can link your Garmin Connect and Strava accounts so that rides sync within seconds, and you can download Strava segments to your Garmin bike computer||Yes, you can link your Garmin Connect and Strava accounts so that rides sync within seconds, and you can download Strava segments to your Garmin bike computer|
|Wifi Connected features (depends on having a Bluetooth enabled smartphone, and you may have to install the Garmin Connect mobile app on your phone)||Yes - Live Tracking, send/receive courses, workouts and training plans wirelessly, social media sharing (choose to post an update to your chosen social media website when you upload an activity to Garmin Connect, weather updates in real time, wirelessly update software, displays phone notifications and messages on your device||Yes - Live Tracking, send/receive courses, workouts and training plans wirelessly, social media sharing (choose to post an update to your chosen social media website when you upload an activity to Garmin Connect, weather updates in real time|
|Automatically send your activity to Garmin Connect as soon as you finish recording||Yes||Yes|
|Live tracking (allows others to follow your activities in real time, if you invite them)||Yes||Yes|
|BlueTooth to connect wirelessly to smartphone and upload data?||Yes||Yes|
|Accepts data cards||Yes, including optional memory card||Yes, including optional memory card|
|Training calendar (The calendar on your device is an extension of the training calendar or schedule you set up in Garmin Connect. After you have added a few workouts or courses to the Garmin Connect calendar, you can send them to your device)||Yes||No|
|Courses (compete against previous activities)||Yes (compete against your previous time by entering the % you want to improve by, then race your virtual partner; or enter a shorter time that you want to achieve)||Yes (compete against your previous time by entering the % you want to improve by, then race your virtual partner; or enter a shorter time that you want to achieve)|
|Virtual Partner® (train against a digital person)||Yes||Yes|
|Advanced workouts (create custom, goal-oriented workouts)||Yes||Yes|
|Time/distance alert (triggers alarm when you reach goal)||Yes||Yes|
|Interval training (set up exercise and rest intervals)||Yes||No|
|Garmin Connect Real-Time segments||Yes||Yes|
|Heart rate-based calorie computation||Yes||Yes|
|Optional heart rate, speed/cadence and power meter?||Yes||Yes|
|Can add a third-party compatible ANT+ sensor as a power meter?||Yes||Yes|
|Can be paired with wireless ANT+ Heart Rate monitor?||Yes||Yes|
|Bike speed/cadence sensor||Yes||Yes|
|Shimano Di2 gearing information||Yes||Yes|
|Activity profiles - store preferences for different cycling activities (For example, you can create a separate activity profile for training, for racing, and for mountain biking. The activity profile includes customized data pages, activity totals, alerts, training zones (such as heart rate and speed), training settings (such as Auto Pause® and Auto Lap®), and navigation settings)||Yes||Yes|
|Auto Scroll (cycles through data pages during workout)||Yes||Yes|
|GPS enabled? (this is the Global Positioning System, the US satellite navigation system)||Yes||Yes|
|GLONASS enabled? (this is the GLObal NAVigation Satellite System, the Russian satellite navigation system)||Yes||No|
|Distance, speed, ascent/descent and GPS position||Yes||Yes|
|Navigation?||Yes - once you pick a location, it will guide you to that location||Yes - once you pick a location, it will guide you to that location|
|Turn-by-turn guidance?||Yes - just like a car GPS, it will warn you a turn is coming, and tell you when to turn (with text and a beep)||Yes - just like a car GPS, it will warn you a turn is coming, and tell you when to turn (with text and a beep)|
|Preloaded basemap?||Yes||Yes (but pretty much useless)|
|Ability to add maps, such as optional City Navigator® maps or topographical maps?||Yes||Yes|
|Points of Interest (POIs) specifically for cyclists||Yes||Requires optional City Navigator® maps to access general points of interest|
|Plan and download new routes to follow (a route is a sequence of waypoints that leads you to your final destination)||Yes||Yes|
|Barometric altimeter (to tell you your elevation)||Yes||Yes|
|Temperature (displays and records temperature while you ride)||Yes||Yes|
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|Amazon Regular Price||$560.00|
|Lowest price at Amazon||$549.00 (You save 1.96%)|
What the Edge 1000 and the Edge 810 have in common
The Edge 1000 and the Edge 810 have a lot in common. They are both bike computers that will give you tons of information: heart rate, power, speed, cadence, distance you have cycled, how much you have climbed, and so on. Note that some of these obviously require additional sensors. Something sitting on your handlebars cannot magically measure your heart rate, for example – for that you need a heart rate monitor that uses ANT+ compatible technology to connect to your Garmin Edge. Similarly, you need a speed and cadence sensor mounted on your wheel to send that data via ANT+ technology to your Garmin.
Both the Edge 1000 and 810 offer automatic, wireless data uploads via Bluetooth and an app on your smartphone. And once y9ou upload them to your Garmin Connect app, they will then sync within seconds with your connected Strava account (if you have one). Both offer live tracking – which basically means that people can monitor where you are (but only if you invite them to). Both the Edge 1000 and 810 will function like a car Sat Nav (satellite navigation) system, recording where you have been and showing you how to go somewhere else. However, the basic maps they come with are very different.
Of course, they both offer all kinds of features and training metrics to help you make your bike training more effective and structured. Both are rugged bike computers that will stand up to wind, rain, snow, mud and rough use. The only time I have ever broken a Garmin Edge was when I accidentally took it scuba diving.
Finally, both the Edge 1000 and 810 offer touchscreen navigation, which many users find to be a huge step up from button-operated bike computers. And it may be easier to operate for users who have become accustomed to the intuitive ease of touchscreen operation.
As you can see, they have a lot in common, but there are some differences. Let’s take a closer look at the features of the Edge 1000 vs 810.
The Garmin Edge 810
Edge 810 Connected Features
The Edge 810 bike computer offers a great range of connected features, including live tracking, sending/receiving courses, social media sharing, and weather updates. Live tracking means that you can invite people to be able to monitor where you are in real time. (You invite them using email or social media.) This could be very handy if you like to go for very long rides, and don’t want your spouse being worried about you. Or if you are a competitive cyclist and have a fan base that wants to keep track of your awesome performances.
Talking of Connected Features – this concise but informative little video highlights the good things about the Edge 810:
Maps and Navigation
The Edge 810 comes with a very basic map that is basically almost useless. However, it is also compatible with optional detailed street or TOPO maps, so if you buy those, it can guide you while touring or commuting. It will also give you weather updates. You can also create routes on your computer and download them to your 810.
Following a recent upgrade, the Edge 810 now includes turn-by-turn directions and off-course warnings as you cycle.
Training Support with the Edge 810
The real strength of the Edge 810 is in its training support. It has a huge menu of training metrics that you can access by swiping through. These include speed, altitude, power, heart rate, cadence, calories, gears (for Shimano Di2), time, distance, temperature, sunset time, workout counters, and more.
Of course, these require various add-ons, including heart rate monitor, cadence sensors and power meters. If all this is important to you, you might want to consider buying a Garmin Edge 810 bundle that includes heart rate monitor and speed/cadence sensor.
Garmin Cycling Dynamics
Both the 810 and the 1000 offer Support for Garmin Cycling Dynamics. This is a more detailed set of metrics for those who have dual-sending Garmin Vector power meters. Vector is Garmin’s pedal-based power meter that measures total power, cadence and left/right balance. It includes Power Phase (PP) and Platform Center Offset (PCO).
The Garmin Cycling Dynamics metrics include details such as where in the pedal stroke you apply the most force, plus seated time and standing time, and so on. You can add these data displays to your unit. After the ride, you can review these metrics in the ride summary, as well as online once the ride is uploaded.
Shimano Di2 gearing information
Previously this was limited to the Edge 1000. However, thanks to a recent upgrade, the 810 also has Shimano Di2 gearing information now. This means that if you have Di2 Dura-Ace 9070, Ultegra 6870 Di2, or Ultegra 6770, you can buy a $60 Shimano wireless transmitter to plug into it.
The unit will then transmit gearing data (privately) via ANT to the Edge 1000. So you get to see which gear you are in, displayed on your unit.
You might ask (as I did), “What is the point of being able to see which gear I am in?” However, the point is that this information will give you a brand new metric to analyze! It could well give you ideas about how to improve your performance, if for example you identify that the reason you got tired at the halfway mark of your latest ride was because you had not shifted into the most efficient gear in good time.
Garmin Connect Real-Time segments
Garmin Connect Real-Time segments used to be limited to the Edge 1000, but have now been extended to the Edge 810 (and the 510). You can create or find segments at connect.garmin.com, download them to your unit, and set up in-ride competitions.
These segments are really clever and cool. You download the desired segment to your Edge 810. Typically it’s a very short course that people like to compete on (virtually). As you approach the start of the course, the Edge 810 gives you a Countdown, and then says “Go!” As you cycle along the course, the Edge 810 keeps you constantly informed as to how you are doing. For example, you have 500 meters to go, and you are 8 seconds behind the segment leader – can you pump up the power and own the course?
You can choose to compete against overall segment leaders, or against your own connections. The latter choice can be nice if you live in an area with a lot of cyclists who are faster than you, and don’t want to constantly lose! You could even go out of your way to cultivate a lot of connections at a similar level to you, so that you have a decent chance in the race. Personally, I hate being beaten all the time, so I would go for that option. However, I know that a lot of the people who buy the Edge 810 are going to be elite athletes, and for them, competing against the fastest and the best could be a great training option.
In response to user requests, Garmin finally linked up with Strava (which many believe to be the best cycling app going. I love it so much I even bought the premium version, instead of staying with the free version). Read more about Strava here. If you have the premium version of Strava, you can download Strava segments to your Garmin Edge, and use them to add some fun and motivation to your bike rides.
Garmin Edge Remote Control Support
Previously this was limited to the Edge 1000. However, thanks to a recent upgrade, the 810 also offers support for a tiny Garmin remote control with three buttons. One is for marking laps; one is for scrolling between data pages as you ride; and the third can be programmed for a function that you find important. You can attach this to your handlebars in the same way you attach your Garmin – and you don’t have to worry much about rain or batteries, because it is waterproof to 50 m and the battery should last for over a year.
Why would you want a remote control? Primarily, these will be useful for those doing intense biking (such as downhill mountain biking) who cannot afford to take their hands off the handlebars.
The Garmin Edge Remote control will cost you an extra $50.
Now let’s take a look at what the top-of-the-line Garmin Edge 1000 offers.
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The Garmin Edge 1000 is the latest in the Garmin Edge line-up, and was released in mid-2014.
Here’s a video that tells you more about the Edge 1ooo:
Navigation and Maps
This is an area where there are still significant differences between the Edge 1000 vs 810. First, the Garmin Edge 1000 has all of the navigation features of the Garmin Edge Touring – which was a revolutionary upgrade in bike navigation computers.
The maps on the Garmin Edge 1000 are far superior to those on the 810. As noted above, the 810 comes equipped with a basically useless base map. However, on the Edge 1000 the preloaded Garmin Cycle Map includes OSM (Open Street Map) content, offering on-road and off-road navigation and points of interest, and address search. Map updates are free, and the maps are stored on the unit, so you don’t have to be connected to use them.
Just as with the Garmin Edge Touring, the turn-by-turn navigation directions are excellent. And as with the Touring model, you are alerted by beeps and a countdown when a turn is coming. As with a car GPS, your upcoming route is highlighted, and the unit will recalculate if you deviate from the route it has planned (or you have planned).
Like the Edge Touring, the 1000 offers round trip routing (you tell it you want to go for a 30 mile ride, and it suggests three possible routes you could try). This feature is not offered on the 810. This may or may not be important for you. Personally, I have never used it, but I know there are people who find it fun.
So, with the Edge 1000 you get the training capabilities of the Edge 810, plus the built-in maps and navigation features of the Edge Touring. That goes some way towards justifying the higher price tag (given that the Edge Touring is $300, and the Edge 810 is $400).
The Edge 1000 has a new, larger, high resolution full color screen. If you compare the Edge 810 vs 1000 side by side, they look very different. The 1000 is significantly taller, and now looks a lot more like a computer or smartphone, because of the clean appearance and the icons. Surprisingly, the 1000 is quite a bit thinner than the 810, even though it has more features. Here is the Edge 1000 in landscape mode, showing off the icon-based interface.
For me, this is one of the most important differences between the 810 and the 1000, because I do find it hard to see the maps on a tiny screen. The 1000 has a 240 x 400 pixel display, while the 810 has a significantly smaller 160 x 240 pixel display.
Shimano Di2 gearing information
Like the Edge 810, the 1000 integrates Shimano Di2 gearing information. However, this is extended in the 1000, in that the hidden shifting buttons on some Di2 systems can be used to remotely change display fields. See above under 810 for more details of this feature.
Another key upgrade with the Edge 1000 is that you can set up Wi-Fi hot spots where it will automatically sync wirelessly (using IOS or Android). You can use Garmin Express on your computer to set up multiple Wi-Fi networks to connect to, as well as up to three preferred networks.
Another upgrade is that the Edge 1000 finds satellites really fast – not something you can say about all the other Garmin Edge models. This may be the most important upgrade on the Edge 1000 for many people. There can be few Garmin Edge owners who have not watched with fascinated horror as their device sometimes takes up to five or six blocks to finally find a satellite. The Edge 1000 eliminates this problem by downloading satellite data ahead of time, so that satellite acquisition takes mere seconds – blisteringly fast for a bike computer (even though routine on a car GPS).
Another reason why the Edge 1000 acquires satellites faster than the 810 is because it supports GPS and GLONASS as well, while the 810 only supports GPS. GPS and GLONASS are simply different kinds of satellite systems – the GPS was developed by the USA, and the GLONASS is Russian. Speaking to more satellites enables the Edge 1000 to lock in much faster.
Garmin Connect Real-Time segments
As detailed above in the 810 section, the Garmin Edge 1000 enables you to use Garmin Connect Real-Time segments. The 1000 was the first bike computer in the world to do this, but Garmin has now extended this to the 810 (and the 510). This is only good sense, as it means there is a bigger community of users to compete against.
This bike computer offers a full range of connected features, including incoming call and text alerts (which the 810 does not have), live tracking, sending/receiving courses, social media sharing, and weather updates. I could see how the call and text alerts could be important for some people, especially if they are in a time-sensitive business environment. Note that this is only IOS compatible, not Android compatible. Also, you cannot answer calls or texts on the bike computer – you still need your phone for that. But at least if there is a vital message you are waiting for, you will know it is in and can deal with it if you want to.
As with a smart phone, you can flip the Edge 1000 to a horizontal (landscape) display. This might not seem like a big deal – but I think it really helps with seeing the maps better. Depending on your handlebar setup, this might work well for some.
Garmin Edge Remote Control support
Previously this only offered on the Edge 1000, but it has now been extended to the 810 (and the 510 as well). See above under 810 for more details of this feature.
Garmin Cycling Dynamics
Following upgrades, the 510, 810 and the 1000 now all offer Support for Garmin Cycling Dynamics. You can add the resulting additional metrics data displays to your unit on the 510, 810 and the 1000. However, the 1000 also enables you to add a dedicated Cycling Dynamics page with a much more graphical view of the metrics.
See above under 810 for more details of this feature.
The Edge 1000 has a training calendar. You can plan and schedule advanced workouts on Garmin Connect, then download them to your training calendar on your unit.
No Bike Profiles
The Edge 810 has bike profiles; the 1000 does not. Not having them is actually a GOOD thing, because it gives you more freedom if you have a lot of bikes, activity profiles and data sensors. With the 810, you are forced to pair specific sensors with specific bike profiles. With the 1000, you simply select the sensors you need at the time, based on what you are about to do. As long as they are switched on, you can select them, not matter which activity you are about to do.
Bottom Line on the Garmin Edge 1000 vs 810
As with all major purchases, it comes down to what you need and want.
If you really need maps, then you might want to keep in mind that the 810 comes with a fairly useless base map, so you have to pay extra for better maps. So if you really need useful maps, you might opt for the 1000. The main reason I could see for spending the extra two hundred dollars for an Edge 1000 would be if you really need both high-end training metrics and high-end maps and navigation, out the box. In that case, you would need the Edge 1000.
However, the notifications of incoming calls and messages offered by the Edge 1000 might be important for some people. For example, if you have an important job or run your own business, and notifications of incoming texts and calls are vitally important. I could imagine a heart surgeon would want to know if an urgent surgery was suddenly required, or a mid-wife might want to know right away if her services were required at an imminent birth.
Also, if the speed of satellite acquisition is important to you, and you can afford to pay for a bike computer that finds satellites with blistering speed, then you would probably choose the Garmin Edge 1000 over the 810.
If you are like me and find it hard to see tiny map displays, then the Edge 1000 would definitely be a better choice. This will probably be relevant to a lot of cyclists who are over 40, and don’t want to wear cycling bifocals.
It comes down to what you need and can afford. It’s a tough choice, but somebody’s got to make it!
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